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Postby amall on Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:33 pm

Anybody besides me see anything interesting about that first playlist...
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Postby brandnew707 on Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:33 pm

Well...the songs rock, that's all I know. Quasi is amazing.
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Postby Ruzbeh on Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:15 pm

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Postby ds freak 101 on Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:24 am

i noticed that in 1 of the pics the guys eyes are not there and one is on the ds. on the sieways pic of the marrionet, its eys look like an open ds. this may meen you can take pictures or mabey see other people or even send video messages. i dont know.( for more info see the first quote on the firs page by brandnew707)
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Postby sKiLLa on Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:10 am

No No, i don't think this huge ass secret NEW thing will have the DS taking pictures. I believe they already have those.....what are they calling them these days? Cameras?
LoL, don't mean to rag on you, but we've heard the silliest and stupidest theories from people in the last few months.

Demasked has to do with multiplayer and most likely online multiplayer and the community that it will create. Nothing more I would expect. No gimmicks. No cameras, gps, cell phones, etc.

Think a lot more simple.


Oh, and I wouldn't look to the music for clues. Tushar just loves his iPod and iTunes. :D
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Postby devillion on Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:56 pm

...its not a camera. You should read the first thread if you seriously want to throw stuff out.
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Postby amall on Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:15 am

...and now volume 3 has arrived
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Postby devillion on Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:34 am

amall wrote:...and now volume 3 has arrived


Of what?
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Postby amall on Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:03 pm

devillion wrote:
amall wrote:...and now volume 3 has arrived


Of what?


Of the DeMasked.com song "inspirations", ofcourse!
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Postby 133t on Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:46 pm

I don't understand what the thing is about the Inspirations. I wont spend 30 bucks just to listen to a volume of that stuff. Can someone please just listen to all the songs and tell us what it talks about?

And to the guy with the 'brilliant' camera idea: a company already made a product for the GBA that lets it take pics. So I really doubt they'd make the same thing twice.
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Sigh, admins killed my post because it referred to demasked.

Postby sKiLLa on Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:25 am

Here's my post, reposted in the "correct" forum

What the heck are Chorx?

urbandictionary.com defines Chorx as:

"Chorx, pronounced "corks", are tiny beings. Since they are so small, it will take a few weeks for them to arrive. They have nothing to do with server permissions, frankly, they think that stuff is boring. They are coming to bring fun to the community, while, at the same time, allowing you to participate in demasked."

What first came to mind when thinking of chorx was quarks, the smallest form of matter and what atoms are made up of.
That fits the description of tiny and is also supposed to be pronounced as "corks."

Where did I get such information?
http://www.dickinson.edu/~tretterm/chadlog.txt

Chad was interviewed earlier tonight about it.
He talks about many different things, including the DS, DemaSked, and Nintendo.
I thought this is something that deserves a separate topic, instead of posting this in the dead sticky thread of the demasked theory.

This Q&A by Chad is a good read for those who have time so I recommend you give it a good look over.

<Chad_Paulson> Although demasked is now comprised of several components, it started off as two very unique concepts. One from myself, one from Tushar. I married these two concepts, we adopted an overall philosophy and we began work. The initial plan was to launch a very small piece of my concept to get the ball rolling, with the intent of selling the much larger idea to interested parties.

<TuqueeLukee> In what way is Tushar a doctor?
Chad_Paulson> You'll see in a few weeks.


Apparently, we're looking at somewhat of an update in a few weeks.

BTW, I asked Tushar about some of this. Here's some transcripts:

skilla says:
What the heck are chorx?

Tushar says:
I wonder about that too from time to time.

skilla says:
"The Chrox are very friendly, just ask Dr. Singh."

Tushar says:
Indeed, I stand by statement.

Tushar says:
Can we really know what Chorx are without first seeing Chorx?

skilla says:
probably not

skilla says:
quarks are the smallest form of matter....I think

Tushar says:
Nobody has ever seen a Quark though, init?

skilla says:
nope, just a theory

Tushar says:
I love theories.

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skilla says:
hey, you invented chorx? C'mon, was the name inspired somewhat by quarks?

Tushar says:
I did not invent Chorx.

skilla says:
Chad says you did...I'm reading that IRC log

Tushar says:
What exactly did he say?

skilla says:
<Chad_Paulson> Dr. Tushar Singh invented the Chorx.

Tushar says:
hmm....there goes my alibi.

skilla says:
lol

skilla says:
and if you look it up on urbandictionary.com it's got your name attached to it too

Tushar says:
Nice, wait a sec, this is all highly secretive.


He eventually told me "Nope." So there goes my theory. What's yours?
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Postby devillion on Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:43 am

I really hope these things arn't going to be used to give DeMasked a kiddy interface. D:

Good find, though.
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Postby Badtz on Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:00 am

OK, I skimmed through that whole txt file and basically only looked at Chad's responses.

The whole concept of being purposefully obscure about things still pisses me off. But at least now he is actually talking about concepts and not just BS. I think he realizes that by being so abstract he is creating unwarranted hype. I thought about pasting in some of his comments, but I'm too lazy.. suffice to say that I don't think there's any doubt now that Demasked really is, at the base of things, nothing more than an online service.

What's still a mystery is how they plan to introduce their core concept of community. Obviously this is an Xbox Live type experience, but different. These Chorx things have something to do with it. The first things popping into my head are pretty raw, but I'm thinking this.

Think about Xbox live. You connect and see some cold, computer gui log in screen. You type in your dumbass name, SuPRe733t or whatever, and your password, and then you go from there. Imagine if instead of that, you logged into a world. You turn on demasked, and it's more like you booted into animal crossing. You're in a town, but all the people around you are characters (Chorx?).

The DS only connects to DS units in the immediate vicinity. What if I want to play a game with my brother, but he lives 100 miles away? In the demasked world, maybe we walk our virtual characters to a virtual street cafe, and our virtual characters connect with their virtual DS units. I have to stay within the virtual range of him. It's like playing DS in the real world, except the physics of it are taking place in a game world. And when we connect, we're tunnelling.
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Postby brandnew707 on Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:06 am

That's an interesting theory, Badtz, and I wouldn't be surprised if that is what Demasked is all about. The only thing is, I don't want to be some cute looking character. I hope that there will be a lot of custimization to it. I really love my World or Warcraft character, so going from a huge beast of a man to something of a Pikmin is sort of...unnerving? Ah, I don't know.

Also, if you look at this week's DS Mailbag at IGN, Craig says something about how Nintendo is supposed to unveil their online plans very, very soon, with a game that is extremely popular being the frontrunner in it. All of IGN's mailbag's seem to hint at something true, so I'm going to go ahead an believe this.
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Postby Badtz on Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:16 pm

brandnew707 wrote:Also, if you look at this week's DS Mailbag at IGN, Craig says something about how Nintendo is supposed to unveil their online plans very, very soon, with a game that is extremely popular being the frontrunner in it. All of IGN's mailbag's seem to hint at something true, so I'm going to go ahead an believe this.


I hope it's animal crossing.
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Postby brandnew707 on Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:42 pm

Yeah, UI'm gonna say it's either Animal Crossing or Mario Kart DS. Either one, I'd be pretty stoked.
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Postby devillion on Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:14 pm

I hope badtz is wrong. I like a cold, heartless GUI that i just plug my name and pass into. I'd really hate having to walk to the person i want to play, if that is what DeMasked is going to be like.

But that really sounds like something they might do =\ Don't ask me why, but it seems to fit in well with Nintendo. But i really hope you're wrong, Badtz :P

And maybe corx, (or however they're spelled) will be how WP makes money off of this? Maybe you can play for free, to custimize your corx, and perhaps even allow it to do advanced functions (user-user mail or something?) you have to pay to "upgrade" your corx? =\
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Postby KaBooOM on Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:30 am

Sorry to burst your bubbles, but Animal Crossing DS won't be online. Nintendo of Japan's information page for AC:DS shows that the game is for 1-4 players, using wireless networking. The context of the description seems to be pointing towards LOCAL networking only.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/nwt/dssoft/doubutsuds/

If and when DS goes online, my bet is that it will probably be Mario Kart or Pokemon.
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Postby brandnew707 on Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:00 am

Well, I'll stay optimistic and say that the "1-4" players thing will be limited to towns. You could have buddies from England and Australia living with you in one town, but only 4 per town. I'm kepping my fingers crossed.
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Postby eecuber17 on Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:14 am

brandnew707 wrote:Well, I'll stay optimistic and say that the "1-4" players thing will be limited to towns. You could have buddies from England and Australia living with you in one town, but only 4 per town. I'm kepping my fingers crossed.


Yeah, I'm still desperately crossing my fingers for AC online...

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Postby brandnew707 on Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:16 am

I'm pretty positive it's just Europena launch information, nothing too big of a deal. I wouldn't look for a online conference for awhile, maybe around March.
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Postby devillion on Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:50 am

AC crossing better be online. Why wouldn't it be? It seems like a simple thing to add =\, especially given all the time they have now.
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Postby HELP! on Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:01 am

devillion wrote:AC crossing better be online. Why wouldn't it be? It seems like a simple thing to add =\, especially given all the time they have now.




What time? Please show us some we'd love it.
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Postby brandnew707 on Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:04 am

HELP!, stop talking like that. Why is it that everytime you come here, you have to talk in the plural form, hinting that you work for Nintendo? If you do, your not acting very mature for a Nintendo worker. I'd be disappointed if you're truely an example of Nintendo's workforce. If you don't work for them, your playing a stupid and immature prank on all of us. You've gotten so many warnings from other moderators, and here's mine for you. Stop it now, and save some dignity you have left to try and become a decent poster. Actually contribute to a discussion for once.
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Postby devillion on Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:30 am

How about the time from now 'till september HELP!? :P If that even is a true release date.

Anyway. That thread out of this one about the interview made me think. What if DeMasked isn't the online service? What if-

A: Its a delivery method. It brings you to Nintendo's official service. Like the internet. Theres alot of ways to get it, like different ISPs. Maybe DeMasked is like the ISP, or only one of them. That article talks about "2 american and a japanese" company working on bringing the DS online. That makes me think there will be multiple ways to get to the online service, with DeMasked and its corx (perhaps they're an interface module?) being only one.

B: DeMasked is just a game. A game that takes advantage of the online capabilities, with its corx being the characters or something. I believe badtz suggested this, so don't think i stole it from him :P Anyway, i REALLY hope this isn't the case. I'd be really pissed if it was :P

I also think this article makes one thing clear. The online service (DeMasked) will be a "decoder" style thing that decodes Ni-Fi into Wi-Fi to allow you to connect at any hotspot. They even define the DS as being able to have this capability once online. I believe i suggested this, a few posts back, :D. Now all i need them to do is confirm it will be an "option pak" that runs along side the games, and i was right about all this. :D!

And whats with the press conference tomorow? Is it even about online play? Or just the PAL/Euro launch?
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Postby Badtz on Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:58 pm

devillion wrote:
B: DeMasked is just a game. A game that takes advantage of the online capabilities, with its corx being the characters or something. I believe badtz suggested this, so don't think i stole it from him :P Anyway, i REALLY hope this isn't the case. I'd be really pissed if it was :P



Heh, well I think I have had at least 3 solid theories about demasked over the past few months..

Here they are, as best I can recall:

1. Demasked is a multi-user online game, sort of like animal crossing. The chorx are somehow characters in the game. The content in the game is constantly updated, with new mini-games and items and things every week or so.

2. Demasked is a software front-end for the DS that allows you to customize your online persona. It lets you create an avatar and other custom options for your DS so that when you link up with others, your DS is unique.

3. Demasked is an online matching service that presents itself as an imaginary world. In this world, you play DS just as you would in the real world, by linking up with other online players who are in 'virtual range' of your virtual DS.

I'm not sure which one I favor right now. It all depends on Nintendo's announcement. If it has nothing to do with Warp Pipe, then option 3 is probably not viable. I really don't think WP would be making a matching system to try and compete with Nintendo.
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Postby devillion on Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:27 pm

As much as i'd love to post this into the forum, i worry it would get closed and sent back to this thread anyway. :P

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Postby brandnew707 on Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:32 pm

Woah, wait....could you explain that for us, dev? What's the add-on for? Why's Iwata's picture in the link? I hope this is official Nintendo information.
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Postby devillion on Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:49 pm

Well, right now i'm not 100% sure. Darkain linked it to me, and this is all i can get out of that japanese page is what we could all infer anyway, "a USB2.0 wifi adapter [that] is put out by nintendo [to bring] your Nintendo DS online through your internet connection"

So basically (this is what i'm thinking, if someone could translate that page, i'd be happy) it will take your internet connection, encode it to NiFi so that the DS can understand it, then take your DS online through you internet connection. Thats only the hardware though. There needs to be a software in place, to act as the destination for the DS. Right now it looks like DeMasked is just that location, and maybe something much less.

But thats all i can get at right now. I'm asking around on IRC too, so if i can find something else out, i'll post it :P But oh god is it gratifying to see some actual hardware :P

And oh, note that this is WiFi certified. The DS is <i>not</i> (it just has the logo). Also, its cert at 2.47, which means it is broadcasting at G speed (802.11G band), so its going to be fast.

And thanks for fixing my post. Stupid edit button :P
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Postby brandnew707 on Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:55 pm

I just realized something. Where the hell is that thing being plugged into? There's nothing on the side of the DS to be used. Unless it's being put into the bottom expansion port. And, after you use it and all, would you be able to take it out? It would get in the way of you playing. Sorry, this kinda seems fake now.
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