Official Warppipe/DemaSked Discussion

[Xellos]

Well right now all we can do is revive and shoot down old theories. I've said it once before that we've discussed every possible theory that could possibly be conceived. Until we get some more info there really is nothing new and productive to discuss. However, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

[devillion]

This is so frustrating.

[trilojik]

I visited the US Patent website today and found a bunch of new patents for the ds and maybee the revolution....




I found all sorts of stuff that has recently been patented such as a home
console device with internet and harddrive capabilities, and also found some GPS crap... might be something interesting in there about the Demasked project... I did find some patents that included Nokia in it..
Maybee a plan for DS Multiplayer?

[BrianCPest]

This is my first post ever about DS.....but, I haeva feeling you're all on the right track. I myself have been knee deep in videogame conspiracies for the past 4 years....way back when the DemaSked first started....and, I've been through everything from Warp Pipes birth to ILoveBees. You guys seem to be VERY close on this one....but, I'll drop you one BIG thing you seem to be missing. I've looked through the old topic thread about this conspiracy that was locked, and one of our friends from WarpPipe mentioned this small little factoid.

The boy in the picture is lost in the woods. He knows there are other people there, yet he is lost. How is this possible? I know the answer.

He mentioned in a second of typing that the dog doesn't resemble Animal Crossing, or any other game. The dog represents Sony.

That's all I'm going to give right now. Don't worry.....I have millions more of ideas.....just it's 11:00 PM and I'm tired and don't want to overflow this reply. If you have any questions, or want to share thoughts.....my sn on every chat program is BrianCPest. Hope you guys figure this out.....but, I'll stay around to help you.

[amall]

Are you in the know?

[Xellos]

It doesn't seem like it would represent Sony to me. I mean the dog is standing there doing nothing, and Sony isn't really doing that. Sony is made the PSP so if anything the dog should be trying to stop the kid from looking for people. The dog isn't attacking the kid, it's just standing there, possibly observing, which might make sense. Although I have to admit, it makes more sense than representing Animal Crossing.

[Badtz]

I think the dog is about to give the boy a hind leg salute, and piddle all over him. That represents what Warp Pipe is doing to all of us.

BTW, while everyone is theorizing on what Demasked might be, and Nintendo is pushing back all the release dates for the most anticipated DS titles, Sony has announced GTA for the PSP and a new feature that lets you stream live TV to the PSP screen over wifi.

Demasked better be something pretty neato.

[BrianCPest]

I'm not so much in the know....just very thorough on my reading. I know that a lot of areas of the WArpPipe site talk about their future plans for Nintendo and how, when they finally get it together, it'll make huge leaps and bounds for the Nintendo systems. If you remember WAY back when WarpPipe first started, they said they'd be working on making an online community for Nintendo players at some point in time. I have good money on the fact that this is what they're working on right now.

Other websites, including Nintendo.com itself, mentions the future releasing of an MMORPG for the DS. They also mention the use of headsets.....why exactly would you need headsets if you're playing people within 30 feet of your DS? It HAS to be an online community. Whenever it comes out, I know a lot of people around here looking forward to playing 16 player Goldeneye online! I can't wait.

[Ruzbeh]

Alright! I just came back from Warppipe forums.

Chad said Demasked will come along with a "MAJOR PLAYER".

Demasked will be the property or license of a company "we all know and love".

That could easily refer to Warp Pipe, since it's a company. But Warp Pipe is not a "MAJOR PLAYER", now is it?

It could be Nintendo, Sega, Namco, Square-Enix.

DEMASKED IS GOING TO BE AWESOME!

[Badtz]

It could be Nintendo, Sega, Namco, Square-Enix.

DEMASKED IS GOING TO BE AWESOME!

I still have serious doubts that any Japanese company would license Warp Pipe. Of the ones you listed, I would say that honestly only Nintendo and Sega would be likely to bankroll an American developer of anything. To me, the most logical major player it could be is someone like EA.

[BrianCPest]

Well, I'll do you one better than the forums. I just came here directly from talking to Chad himself. I didn't get much out of him (of course...I wouldn't want him to leak anything anyhow), but I did get him to say that March 2005 is a RUMOR. As of right now there is no official release date for the "public", and when asked if there's an official release date for the press or entertainment expo, he had no reply. He said there of course WILL BE a public release, just not in any set time period as of now.

He also said that WarpPipe has become much larger in the new DemaSked project. 2 of the original WarpPipe members are still around from the Gamecube project, but recently, WarpPipe has expanded (by a lot, from the sounds of things). With this knowledge, I believe it's safe to say that WarpPipe is now working alongside some other, larger firm. I have no idea who, but it just makes sense if you put the pieces together.

[Methos]

Demasked better be something pretty neato

DeMasked needs to prove to me that it's not just vaporware before I even start considering whether it's neato or not.

[BrianCPest]

Just talked to Chad again.....got some deeper, more interesting news for you.

I asked him when we'd first be hearing about DemaSked. He said that there will definitely be something at E3, but it will only be for private viewing from Press. No public booths.

When I asked him when it will be released to the public, (Note* E3 this year isn't even until May, so you can kiss that March release rumor goodbye) he said that he was not the man to ask, and the release date of the DemaSked project is completely out of his hands. This is another implication that WarpPipe has already been connected with a larger company name. I wonder who it is. He also said that he's hoping that WarpPipe will become a major company after the DemaSked work is finished and he also said "we hope to become a major company after this project.....or, just part of a major company".

And, I finally got my thoughts together and asked the question everyone is wondering....."Does DemaSked work yet?" His answer pretty much amazed me. He said that they've been testing the DemaSked program and all the features on a Beta version. His exact quote was "Yep. A long time ago."

I'll keep in touch with Chad, as he says that he'll release some new stuff for me to post in "the not so distant future".

[brandnew707]

Well, thanks! I've kind of been shying away from caring about what Chad and his team is doing, but I'm still interested. I was wondering, when he said they'd be at E3, does that mean the press will get to see it, but will have to sign an NDA and not report it to the public? I don't know if there's a rule for that.

[BrianCPest]

I'm not sure. All he told me was that he's sure they'd be at E3, but he's pretty positive there'll be no disclosure of information to any public. I have a feeling it will be more of a behind doors, if you sign a disclosure contract type of situation.

Trust me, I want to badger him and pummel him with questions just as much as anyone.....but, I figured he'd want some time to himself. I mean, from what he told me, each indidivual person on the team (which, from what he's told me seems HUGE) is putting in 80 hours a week in the office for this project. He deserves as much personal time as he can get.

I will talk to him again soon though, so if there are any decent questions floating around there, let me know. I'll see what I can toss over to him.

By the way, I've recently talked to him about my own possabilities in the WarpPipe team. lol. Maybe there'll be a future in it for me.....could be.

Thanks. Like I said, I'll get as much info as soon as I can. But, I respect Chad too much to just sit there and toss questions at him nonstop.

[HELP!]

Well, thanks! I've kind of been shying away from caring about what Chad and his team is doing, but I'm still interested. I was wondering, when he said they'd be at E3, does that mean the press will get to see it, but will have to sign an NDA and not report it to the public? I don't know if there's a rule for that.

It doesn't matter if they all sign NDA's. Rumors will get out. No matter what, always.

[devillion]

Thank you for breathing life into this thread.

[quote=BrianCPest]Other websites, including Nintendo.com itself, mentions the future releasing of an MMORPG for the DS. They also mention the use of headsets.....why exactly would you need headsets if you're playing people within 30 feet of your DS? It HAS to be an online community.[/quote]

I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY! I swear to god there was a gizmodo post with a link to an official site that talked about a Headset being made for PSO on the DS. I f***ing knew it. I wish gizmodo's archive feature wasn't sh*t though, so i could actually find the post.

And about the release date, i kind of feel the same way Badtz does. =\ They can't keep pushing their good games back farther and farther. And if they do release some DS games without DeMasked support, once DeMasked does come out, people will be annoyed. Its kind of a no win situation.

Though its pretty good that we actually have someone involved with the project (chad is the lead right?) saying that DeMasked works and is in beta. For awhile there i was wondering if they were even bashing any code out at all, or just making up puzzles. (if you are reading this, just kidding you guys, i love you, keep working ). Though i guess i shouldn't really be releaved that it is beta, perhaps, because most online things stay in beta FOREVER. I mean, xbox live was in there for what? Like 2 years right?

On the topic of the dog being sony, wow, no ideas there. lol, maybe with a nights rest i'll think of something. But jeez, sony? wtf? >_>;;

We all kind of inferred that DeMasked was being pushed along, if not led by, or even taken over by, a major company. Thats not really anything new, in fact i remember someone on the team posting that 'things weren't in warppipe's control anymore' (paraphrasing obviously). EA sounds right, because of what badtz mentioned, and because of their tendency to buy up projects and then take them out of the control of the original players.

Even if there is an NDA on the E3 appearance, there is no way we won't get SOME details out of that. Typically stuff at E3 doesn't stay secret.

Heres a question for Chad, you don't have to ask if you don't want, just something i think alot of people are wondering: I think alot of people are still bitter about the Novemeber release date that got floated around during the intial clues/hype. Why would you hype up DeMasked when it was nowhere near being finished? Why would you even float that date? Why start the clues so early? I really don't care at this point. Yea, i was really pissed when it got delayed, and all the fun and anticipation i'd been having following the project became pointless, but i don't care as much now. I'm not angry at you guys, just wondering why that happened.

EDIT: Huh, the DS logo has been removed from the banner of WarpPipe.com. Weird.

[Xellos]

80 hours a week? That's double the normal 9-5 job. I've heard of overtime but damn. On one hand extra time means a lot of extra work which means it could be great. But on the other hand, bungie worked 12 hours a day for 7 days straight before Halo 2 came out, and we all know by now that it wasn't enough.

In short, I don't care how much work they put into it, but rather the quality. Quality over quantity any day gentlemen.

[brandnew707]

Dev, I think the logo was just a celebration on the DS's release. It had "21" in the screens, so that led me to believe it was just a simple decoration.

According to some of Chad's posts on Warppipe, he in fact is still the leader of development, but NOT the leader of the whole project. He sites the fact that this "major company" took over as a postive thing for the company. It was much better to get the support from this "company", saying that he felt proud about it or something. He says that its a company "we all know and love." Now come on, no one I know who goes to either of the boards (this and Warppipe) likes EA all that much. It has to be Nintendo. I can't see any other way around it.

[Badtz]

It has to be Nintendo. I can't see any other way around it.

I have to agree. Nintendo is the only real company that makes sense. Why would Sega, or Namco, or any other third party want to spend any money developing an online system for someone else's system? If anyone is going to put the DS online, it's going to be Nintendo.

As far as Chad goes, I still have mixed feelings about all this. I hope Demasked is real, and it turns out to be something phenomenal. But honestly, the whole secrecy part of this deal has been mishandled and is honestly pretty lame. He's setting up a lot of people for disappointment, because so many people believe Demasked is some kind of second coming, or magical satellite GPS low fat grilled cheese making machine or something.

[brandnew707]

Well I'd have to agree, Badtz, to a certain extent. Sometime in the midts of all the craziness, the bigger company finally swooped in and took over the project. I think Chad really did intend to release all new info in November, but because this company came in to start it over, they had to push it back. Easy mistake, in my opinion, but still quite annoying.

[Badtz]

Well I'd have to agree, Badtz, to a certain extent. Sometime in the midts of all the craziness, the bigger company finally swooped in and took over the project. I think Chad really did intend to release all new info in November, but because this company came in to start it over, they had to push it back. Easy mistake, in my opinion, but still quite annoying.

Well, if this is true, then it only makes the case for Nintendo stronger. As I said before in other threads, there's no way in hell that Nintendo would have allowed Chad to release all those stupid clues like that if they were really working for Nintendo at the time. The fact that the clues have stopped shows that someone has shown them the error of their ways.

[Ruzbeh]

or magical satellite GPS low fat grilled cheese making machine or something.

That would be even more awesome than the DS itself!

Btw, Badtz, you don't like puzzles, do you?

I feel you man, neither do I!

[eecuber17]

Well I'd have to agree, Badtz, to a certain extent. Sometime in the midts of all the craziness, the bigger company finally swooped in and took over the project. I think Chad really did intend to release all new info in November, but because this company came in to start it over, they had to push it back. Easy mistake, in my opinion, but still quite annoying.

Well, if this is true, then it only makes the case for Nintendo stronger. As I said before in other threads, there's no way in hell that Nintendo would have allowed Chad to release all those stupid clues like that if they were really working for Nintendo at the time. The fact that the clues have stopped shows that someone has shown them the error of their ways.

Very interesting. I think this may be the case.

So now Nintendo's got the reins and their holding Chad and the "clues" back. Because, we all know how secretive Nintendo is.

[devillion]

Well I'd have to agree, Badtz, to a certain extent. Sometime in the midts of all the craziness, the bigger company finally swooped in and took over the project. I think Chad really did intend to release all new info in November, but because this company came in to start it over, they had to push it back. Easy mistake, in my opinion, but still quite annoying.

I was kind of thinking that too. It'd be cool if BrianCPest could get chads comment on this, but at this point im just glad new life has been shoved into the lungs of the dead horse we've all been kicking.

[BrianCPest]

Alright, I was going to ask him the questions about why he released so much hype SO far before DemaSked actually was planned to come out, and if the lack of clues recently is connected to the new company, BUT.....I couldn't get a hold of him. So, I'm hoping to hear from him later tonight after work. I'll let you know.

MOD EDIT: (go to the DemaSked website and click the "DemaSked Inspirations Vol 1" link)

delays. lol. Kind of ironic, isn't it.

http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?typ ... 2004-11-01

Try to just edit in to your posts the things you come up with if you're the last person who postsed. Double posting is sort of annoying. Thanks.

~Brandnew

[BrianCPest]

(Definitely read the interview....it turns out, his plan is going along perfectly. You're all doing exactly what he wants you to do.....and, thats good. That should answer your question about why he released such early clues....)

[HELP!]

(Definitely read the interview....it turns out, his plan is going along perfectly. You're all doing exactly what he wants you to do.....and, thats good. That should answer your question about why he released such early clues....)

Demasked is........................welllllll...............STUPID!!!...........allright, I said it, good. just my opinion. You are all free to attack me. I do not understand why you guys could care anymore. The guys at warppipe are f***ing idiots, and they dont know what the hell they're doing.m Thats why they came to...........a bigger company.

[brandnew707]

Oh that's rich. You, the almighty Nintendo employee, calls DemaSked stupid. But I could recall you saying it was one of the best things ever a couple months ago....

[HELP!]

Oh that's rich. You, the almighty Nintendo employee, calls DemaSked stupid. But I could recall you saying it was one of the best things ever a couple months ago....

Really? Prove it. please, do so. And, remember, my opinion has changed.