So what was the point of having all these clues and picture to get Nintendo fans all hyped up about something that's just a tool for developers?
IMO, Chad only did it to get the Demasked name out there. If it wasn't for his big sherade last year, no one would know who Chad or Demasked even is.
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It's called viral marketing and if you haven't noticed, it was pretty successful wasn't it? People were being stupid and suggeting the stupidest and most pointless ideas when warp pipe repeatedly said that demasked had nothing to do with tunneling. I knew, no matter what demasked was going to be, that people were going to be pissed off and disappointed because it wasn't what they thought it would be. You can't expect demasked to be a stupid GPS thing or something that would magically allow all DS's to connect together and make some super impossible, because it's a battery powered handheld, network. So I don't see how making games better and giving developers a chance to implement online options in their games a crock. I don't see how any of the apparent innovations they are creating to make the games you love better a crock. If you see demasked as a disappointment, it is your impossible and silly expectations that are disappointing you. Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. -- Steven Weinberg
Have you ever been to a tradeshow? At tradeshows you see hundreds of marketing campaigns that are aimed at the show's attendees. These attendees are in the business, not the end consumers. Now, why do you think these marketing campaigns are aimed at the people who are in the business and not the consumers? Maybe because it would be a waste of money/effort to push a product to an audience that would see no direct way of using it/purchasing it. Thats what I think and is why I see that what Warppipe did was stir a completely irrelevant storm in an audience who would not be their direct customer. Has nothing to do with my expectations, just the fact that they appear to have wasted their time as well as the time of many others.
Well, Chad's goal with all that was to build interest in a new product and expand a community interested in online gaming. He successfully did both and is the reason why I object to you referring to it as a crock. And although probably 95% of those people who took interest in demasked were not direct customers, I'm most positive that there were direct customers reached through this campaign. If you think about it, they got their name out there by "wasting" money as you say, but think of how much it would have cost to spread word of demasked if they tried buying billboards or commercial space? I bet they wasted very little money on demasked as a whole compared to what many companies spend every day on a single billboard, for example. Also, how have they wasted the time of many others? Did you consider talking about demasked on a forum a waste of time? If they wasted their own time, why is it Chad has announced they are talking with a major company that we all know and love? Hearing things like that, it's pretty clear that all they have done, no matter how wrong it looks to you, has been a success. Am I wrong? Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. -- Steven Weinberg
What they did was in effect the same as marketing a small scale product to the entire world, where EVERYONE sees it but only .5% of the audience is their target. It's a waste of people's time, albeit anywhere from a tenth of a second while glancing over a slashdot article to spending 6 months gossiping on a forum about it. Had they only toyed around on developer websites, tradeshows, conferences, etc.. it would be a COMPLETELY different story. Yes they *MAY have accomplished the somewhat same effect with what they did (although there still isnt a cool product to showcase their business, still vaporware in my opinion) but it was it in no possible way could be considered efficient.
I really dont care about all of it, just kind of a let down that such an ad campaign could have been so misguided. Oh, and I dont think I said anything about a waste of money, although I could be forgetting a statement. Lord knows that had to have been one of the lowest budgeted campaigns of all time.
Well, as long as you acknowledge the FACT that it was a successful campaign in getting their name out in the world and doing it in a cheap and THEREFORE efficient way.
And you are being rediculous with the waste of people's time. People had so much fun trying to guess what demasked was or what it was about. If you consider it a waste of time, again, it was YOU who wasted your OWN time on the web forums discussing something you were most interested in. Chad or warppipe did not force you into a room in front of a computer, hold a gun to your head and ask you to discuss demasked. Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. -- Steven Weinberg
What the F***? It was a GAME. They asked US to play the game, so we did. Its their stupid fault for either:
A) Not even having a product at all or B) Being really bad at making and keeping deadlines. How the F*** can you say the hype was our fault when they were the ones who were like "OSHI HAY U GUYZ WE HAVE A GUD PROGRAM BUT OSHI WE CANT SAY WUT IT IZ SO U KAN GUESS OK BYE. O WAIT WE ACTUALLY DONT HAVE ANYTHING =(((( SRRI" Why are you defending them skilla? They've let down not only this community, but everyone who owns a DS. It was very immature thing for them to do =\ And getting their name out for what? For what? Theres no product. There is no demasked. All we know for sure about demasked is that it might have something to do with online, and it uses corks. Thats it. If they had released this back in freaking november when they said they would, then i could understand it being a decent marketting campaign. As it is now, it was a childish rumor ploy =\ Nothing to add, just being sarcastic on the internet!!! B)
You got it right on the money, Dev.
Yeah, we got carried away, but what did Chad expect us to do with cryptic-ass clues like that? You don't just wave a sucker in front of a kid and then smack his hand away when he reaches for it. Warp pipe really cocked things up. They should have known better than to taunt the masses like that. The individual is smart, the masses are retarded. Sin una espada en la mano, no te puedo proteger,
Con una espada en la mano, no te puedo abrazar
What the hell? This quote basically contradicts what he said in that interview (unless, of course, Nintendo is using DemaSked in Animal Crossing DS, but I thought they were using their own online system). So if it's the consumer's decision, as Chad pretty much said in the above quote, then what's all this about it being a developer tool? Bah...
I never said the hype was all your fault, I said your expectations are what is letting you down. If demasked is going to help bring future games online that would probably not have been online in the first place, then I am happy with what they have done. I'm still very interested in ant-farm and the chorx and as such I am also interested in the beta test towards the end of may for . I still think a lot of people were pissed off because they thought it was going to be some tunneling project like warp pipe when they repeatedly said it wasn't. Also, they haven't revealed everything about demasked, ant-farm, or the chorx and yet you guys think it is useless vapourware. Give them a chance, we're not dealing with a multi-million dollar company like EA or NINTENDO, we're dealing with a bunch of guys who just started their own company and have yet to make a cent off of it. So if they have problems with keeping deadlines, it's not hard to see why. Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. -- Steven Weinberg
Oh c'mon. You can't read through this entire thread and the previous Demasked thread and then say that people on this board didn't hype Demasked to death.
I fully admit the hype was our fault. But come one, how can you go along giving out mysterious hints and clues without thinking that this would turn into something big?
PASSION FRUIT PEOPLE! They live in mango trees, I hear.
(Oh screw it, I had a longer post, but it's not worth it. The two sentences below say enough.) Yea, I'll say that Chad/WarpPipe screwed up, but you guys did too. So everybody should just get over it already.
There just hasn't been any more news so stop posting off-topic stuff in this thread or it might get locked. The next sentence is true. The last sentence was false.
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Can we unsticky this thread? I think this demasked hoax thing has had enough attention.
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I concur. Lolz, concur is such a fun word to say :p But, seriuosely, we should desticky this, it's nice to leave this around as a reminder that we shouldn't hype things, but leaving it sticked is pointless, just let it go. "Thats a lot of soccer moms!" -Reggie
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